Does anyone know where JIN Hardy of Jins Lettings is? she has been taking payment for renting my property but she is not passing on the rent to me since January!!! is this another case like Kims lettings where they run off with our money!!!

Hi SMUSSA, I am in the same situation as yourself! Jins letting agency has not forwarded on the rent monies owed to myself. I have called the agency numerous times to be advised she is not there. I have also called her mobile number and she has promised me my rent when she returns to the office , I asked her if she can pay this by internet banking at home and she replied she has NO internet at home! even though she was running her business from home in 2008!! From this day the mobile has now been switched off! Also I have been advised that the tenents deposit has not been placed into a Deposit Protection Scheme!

http://tinyurl.com/5w5vubw

I also encourage anyone who has had a problem with any local business to write a business review in order to keep the community safe and informed. I've attached the link above, it takes seconds!

Also - has anyone actually reported this to the police?

We have been informed Jin suffered a stroke and is in hospital, our landlord is now seeking rent to be paid directly to him.
I am concerned as a renter over our deposit if Jins goes out of business!

Thank you very much for posting the above Burrett1943 - we at newmaldenpeople.co.uk are also investigating further but if anyone affected could report this as requested we can hopefully get to the bottom of it.

OK I have reported as well to the Net on the number above and my reference is CHS506749 20/04/11 (Backup System).

The report has been linked to CAD13642 19-4-11. I

Please can as many people as possible report thier issues to the Met Police (qoting the case numbers above) and Trading Standards on the contact details above.

Further to my comments yesterday, I have today been interviewed by the Police. This has been registered as a Criminal Offence which will involve the Police, not Civil. Please note the new Metropolitan Police Log: CHS10797 of the 19/4/11. The wheels have now started turning and as I stated before it is imperative that all Landlords associated with Jin's Lettings should contact the Metropolitan Police stating the new reference number. It is no good giving Jin;s Lettings any further time. Whether Jin Hardy is ill or not, business is business and all Landlords should tell their tenants to stop any Standing Orders to Jin's Lettings and they should find another letting agent. I myself have transferred all my tenants to Huggins & Co in New Malden, tel. no: 0208 942 7733 and the contact there is Paul Farren. He has been very helpful to me and in a matter of 2 weeks he has had new contracts drawn up for my tenants and I am now receiving rent. Best of luck to you all, but you have to get on with it now. Any more time is a waste of time and your money. Rod

I have lost £3,000 in deposit. How much have you lost?

As a lanlord, unless you are one of the DPS 20, you will be liable to replace your tenants deposit.

It is worth checking on your house (or motor) insurance to see if you are covered for legal expenses. I have been in touch with my insurance company and I am covered. So as you rightly say, to try and get monies back you will have to go through the Civil Courts - but at present I am only interested in nailing Jin's Lettings for what she has done to me - and us all. The reason why I am going to the Police first is that if Jin or Jin's Lettings are prosecuted for fraud - and this is proved - then the making of a Civil case would be much easier as she would have already been convicted for fraudulent actions. It may be the case that Jin is ill - to whatever degree we don't know - but this is no excuse for her current actions. Any good business should have people in place who can deal with the day to day running, although the Principal is absent. Just for the record - I am out of pocket over £6000.00. Not good.

Well good luck all and keep us posted.

A good source of advice to confirm best action:-

http://tinyurl.com/3ra359p

I was actually surprised as to how good these people are!

Cant give too much info as Simon reads this page, but iv logged it with the MET

Pepper,

We would love to visit Jin, if she would answer her phone!!!

if you know something that we dont then please do tell us!!!

I am owed rent since Jan!!!!

No comments to make chaps?

Simon

Troll, you are funny. Stealing LCD screens, very funny. If you are Simon which I doubt, that's just more info to give to this groups legal teams, the Police and Trading Standards who are all copied in on this link.

Does Jin know that you are advising everyone to tell their tenants to stop paying Jin, maybe this is just to help Jin go under and then u can blame everyone for it!!!

also to stake out her house camp outside it, how much are u getting paid in cash to fob everyone off?

Simon, I think you need to look at the bigger picture!!! Fraud which has been reported to the police, I wouldnt worry about a few plasma screens. Have you informed HMRC that you are taking cash salary?

Night Night must go its getting late dont worry too much tonight about CCTV footage as its also recorded at the security centre HQ

Simon

By the way we are talking at least £16,250 owed to me and two of the other posters on this board.

How many more are owed an average of @£5400?

Please post how much you are owed below.

I agree with you totally dpickston - Jin should just pay up and then the matter can be closed. There is no excuse, especially when some of us Landlords have been with her for many many years. Do the right thing Jin - and/or Simon - no more excuses, just pay us what you owe us.

Saying that I'm giving Simon (Jins) until the end of the week to transfer my tenants deposit to my new letting agent. As a landlord, if the deposit has gone, I am liable for it and its £3K.

Simon called after going to Blagdon Road and stated that Jin has not been seen there for a week. He now believes that it is very likely that she has disappeared with the money.

Simon states that the deposit is in a scheme but has yet to provide any form of proof despite numerous promises.

Anyone interested in a joint action please get in touch.

Trevor my email addy is username@aol.com

Oh and make sure you ass Simon to your Police reports as he is in this up to his neck.

All, please seek legal advice from TS, CAB and consumer direct then consider using MCOL. Its easy, quick and cheap:-

https://http://tinyurl.com/3hja3qs

Remember to add two defendants, Jins lettings and Jin personally at her home address. As an example it cost £80 to claim £3,000.

Hi everyone, thanks for your comments, helpful info and advice regarding this story - not sure what facebook group you are using but do also feel free to comment and post on the offical newmaldenpeople.co.uk page at https://http://tinyurl.com/32djv4 At the very least it would be great if you could 'like' the page.
Thanks! newmaldenpeople

Guys- I know Jin personally, and in fact helped out at Jins Lettings for a 6 month period until February 2010. I can totally understand the frustration of the landlords that are owed money and it's difficult to try and defend the indefensible and I'm not going to try; however SMUSSA, it's completely unethical to publish Jin's private address on the internet. She is indeed very unwell. To mock 'does anyone know whether she is alive or dead?' is completely unsavoury, irrespective of who she owes money to.

As for Simon, put yourself in his shoes, the poor guy is just trying to to earn a living as we all do. He has nothing to do with the finances in the business whatsoever and goes to work everyday attempting to' push water uphill' single
handedly.

If landlords are owed money and they believe that Jin has embezzled their money, then this should be directed through the correct channels and not vigilante comments on this site.

Smussia- you've missed my point. I totally understand your position;however actively supporting visiting Jins private residence and publishing her address-irrespective of whether Simon gives it out is wrong.That said, I do appreciate that the banks don't give a monkeys about your plight.

I do hope that you've all taken the steps to get paid by your tenants directly forewith in order to limit your losses and as previously said, take the official
steps to recover the monies that are owed to you.

Hi all
I just stumbled across this site. I have today reported this crime under - CAD5263 27th April 2011.
Jin owes me just under £10,000
Has anyone talked to a solicitor?
I have been advised that we should build up a case together with the same legal firm as it will be a bigger case.
Any thoughts?

Hi People, Has anyone taken any further steps to claim their monies? dpickston if you still out there please could you contact me to advise me how to and what to put in this claim form. Also Simon has continuously stated that Landlords "should" go around her house to get their money, as she is issuing cheques if you can get hold of her, so you would be daft not to go if the person who works in the company is blatantly telling you to go and get your money! Also has anyone got a penny since this has happened? What’s happening to the money that is coming in from the cash tenants are paying directly to Simon? Why can’t this be paid out to the people that are owed?

Just for clarity;
1 - Has anyone been paid any rent in the past 6 weeks?
2 - Has anyone successfully secured their deposits in the DPS in the past 6 weeks?
3 - Has anyone been able to get hold of Jin in the past 6 weeks?
4 - Do we know how many people are in this situation? Jin has over 100 properties rented out?

Need this information for the solicitors and for the police.

Thanks

Simon is not the most discreet of characters and I find it difficult to believe that Jin would have left him there to carry the can if she had dishonest intent. Simon mentioned to me that Jin had been attempting to sell the business but her debts made the business almost worthless. It occurs to me that whoever was trying to buy it probably has far more information about this. Simon (in his indiscreet way) did actually tell me the details of who it was but I won't share them here as that would be unfair to that party were it untrue.

LandladyKT3...the tenant will ALWAYS get their money back as if Jin has run off with it, you as the landlord would have to replace it. If you need to validate this (and I have) speak to another letting agents such as Andrew at Keys (details above).

Please join the facebook group!

Helga, why are Keys participating? I know of a few reasons that should not be publicized on a public board........

Please join the facebook group mentioned above.

And, last but not least, I had the privilege of being probably one of the rare people seeing the actual paper version of the written draft business purchase agreement between Dean (Keys Residential) and Jin "flying about" on Jin's desk in her reception area! Figures to be disclosed soon! As I was told, Keys would honour all debts if the deal was to pull thru. I would be very cautious of this deal though and in the present circumstances this would not be a wise business decison at all giving the bad reputation and all. But this is, of course, up to Keys....


I will come back with more news for you soon....

Liebe Grüsse
Helga Flick
Defending honesty and decency in our day-to-day dealings

If your letting agent manages deposits and goes out of business

Landlords are responsible for making sure the deposit is kept safe with one of the schemes even if they use a letting agent to look after the deposit.

The scheme provider will expect you as landlord to pay it back any money it has to pay to the tenant if it is unable to get the money from the managing agent. You should therefore consider what arrangements your agent has made to keep tenants’ money separate and available even if it goes out of business.

http://tinyurl.com/34w5m7u

Yup am on FB.

This chap did an article on New Malden in which Jin featured.

Laurence Knight Laurence.Knight@bbc.co.uk

Here is the article.

http://tinyurl.com/4hehelp

Feel free to update him.........
Doing business in London's Little Korea
http://tinyurl.com/11w0
Welcome to New Malden, London home to 20,000 Koreans and the dozens of businesses that have grown up to meet their needs.

What is then the advantage of moving this blog to FB? I believe New Malden People is a community matter concerning all of us living in this area and it is therefore in the right place to be read by as many community members as possible. Not all of us want to join FB - neither will I - but I like to voice my opinion nevertheless and this on the community site where it is really relevant.

So we can exclude the likes of Simon and Jin from reading it and to prevent folks from slandering others.

Simon as well as Jin can join FB anytime under any name - sorry guys, will not join FB. So I will keep on with my updates on this matter on our community site.
Forgive your Helga (:-))!
Also, I do not fear any slandering accusations etc because what I say is the truth, provable and has witnesses.

Helga, the FB board is a closed board, you need to pass the scrutiny of the admins and is far more secure than this board which is read by a small fraction of the NM community.

I think you need to look up the meaning of slander and realize how much it could cost you to settle out of court...... Whether you can prove it or not is nor the point...the COST of doing so is the point and is considerable.

SMUSSA - Slough is good, not sure anywhere near NM is a good idea. Only those who have been vetted via your FB site allowed.

DPickston,
I have never been known for anything else but telling the straight-forward facts as in truth - and this is what it is all about and no-one should be afraid of speaking up and tell the facts he knows. This very much applies to me and I stand to this. Any EU citizen has by law the right to speak freely and voice his opinion freely.
So, now onto the next step - whatever this may be...to help you people.

If your letting agent manages deposits and goes out of business

Landlords are responsible for making sure the deposit is kept safe with one of the schemes even if they use a letting agent to look after the deposit.

The scheme provider will expect you as landlord to pay it back any money it has to pay to the tenant if it is unable to get... the money from the managing agent. You should therefore consider what arrangements your agent has made to keep tenants’ money separate and available even if it goes out of business.

http://tinyurl.com/5rl99zh more
Deposit protection schemes for private tenants : Directgov - Home and community
http://tinyurl.com/4rl345
How deposit protection schemes work, who needs to use them and how to choose the best scheme for you

Landlords, keep chasing Jin. I have done and have recovered all outstanding rent, just the deposit to go. Use all the methods detailed above, Police, TS, Consumer Direct etc to put pressure on Jin and Jin's Lettings. At least start a claim with MoneyClaim online (It's cheap!) to recover rent owed. Lets not allow these folks to escape unharmed with our money! Of course you could just roll over and do feck all.........................

Please join this group

http://tinyurl.com/5v2mu97

Suggested action for Landlords.

Join the facebook group Jins Lettings // Add your name to the case with the Met Police. Ref "CHRIS 0404115/11" Tel 0208 2475142 // Raise a case with Consumer Direct // Contact Kingston Trading Standards // Ensure you have started a MoneyClaim Online with Jin personally and Jins Lettings as defendants // Make sure you cancel any contact in writing with Jins giving solid reasons and 7 days notice. // Change letting agents and ensure you replace any lost deposit // Ensure y our tenants pay no further monies to Jin or Jins lettings.

I'm told that Jins office on the High Street was due to close end April so to take any action you are running out of time.

Is there anyone who lives near Jins Office stand there with a banner advising people to report Jins to the police???

All, updated Police contact.

Detective Alex Gammampila

CID Kingston

TEL 0208 721 5842

Please quote reference CHRIS 0404115/11

Please update him TODAY with all those you believe may be involved in what some may consider to be possible fraudulent activity!

Landlords, please complete the following for the Met Police:- http://tinyurl.com/3urmffm

I have just received the following statement from the Metropolitan Police Service in Kingston - anyone who believes they have lost money should complete a pro forma statement available via the link below:

Metropolitan Police Service (Kingston) have received a number of calls from landlords concerned that money held on their behalf by JINS Lettings, 34 High Street, New Malden have been removed without their knowledge. Officers from Kingston CID are investigating these concerns.

Landlords wishing to provide information to police are asked to visit the following link and complete the pro forma statement.

http://tinyurl.com/3urmffm

Please see this article in the Surrey Comet:-


A police investigation is under way into claims that cash has gone missing from a lettings agency.

Detectives from Kingston CID are investigating claims money held by JINS Lettings on New Malden High Street has disappeared.

A police spokesman said the move came after the force received a number of calls from concerned landlords.

http://tinyurl.com/3ujf3fy

I have requested to join the group my name is Anil Gogna and also a landlord who is owed money by Jin.

If you want to talk to a reporter at the Surrey Comet and tell us how much you are owed so we can build a complete picture of what is missing please give us a call on 0208 744 4264.

If you are Jin Hardy and are reading this please also give us a ring so we can get your side of what has happened.

All landlords, please see http://tinyurl.com/3jlbeyh

Landlords, you stand NO chance of getting any money back if you don't report to the Police! See above.